Lawmaker: Offensive Irish Clothing, Souvenirs Should Go

Moroney says vulgar and derogatory messages are no joke. Take the Patch poll on this issue.

Rockland County Legislator Patrick Moroney of Orangetown is taking issue with St. Patrick’s Day-themed paraphernalia that displays vulgar and derogatory messages and is on sale by a few merchants at Palisades Center mall in West Nyack.

“These items are deeply offensive, vulgar and inappropriate,” said Moroney. “The wording amounts to nothing more than ethnic bashing and is insensitive.  There are few cultures that take as much ribbing as the Irish and it escalates around this time of year. In addition, these shirts and hats are displayed in full view for our youngsters to see.”

Moroney is calling upon merchants throughout the county to halt the display and moreover, the sale, of any merchandise that displays offensive words or portrays any ethnicity in an insulting manner.

“The joyous occasion of our annual is only days away,” said Moroney.  “It is a time for everyone to join with those of Irish heritage to celebrate with respect and harmony, a great tradition.”

Rockland County's in Pearl River is the largest such parade in the region, outside of New York City. The parade, set for 1:30 p.m. Sunday in downtown Pearl River, could draw as many as 50,000 spectators.

Hagrid Miller March 14, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Watchdog, since when is asking for change, not demanding it, intolerant and disrespectful?I don't remember Irish traditions and views being that no one should advertise their sexuality. If anything, being Irish is about stopping discrimination and hatred in any form, no matter how innocuous it might seem. The Irish faced persecution from the English for centuries, and it is my view that everyone should be treated COMPLETELY equal. Lobbying for change is simply a suggestion, which I do not see as disrespectful to the Irish culture, and you have yet to prove how it is. And this plea is not solely for members of the LGBTQ community, it is for everyone to have all of the same rights. And who are you to determine what is and what is not Irish heritage. If you are gay and of Irish descent then you are of Irish Heritage, thus shouldn't you be allowed to advertise your specific facet of the Irish heritage? Or do you believe that to be of Irish heritage you must acquiesce to a cookie-cutter image? And furthermore, I am willing to open the Pandora's box. It scares me that people who hold that view of "just leave it be, its not worth it" still exist after all of the progress the amazing country has made. And while I respect your right to an opinion, I do not respect your right to lie. You have misinformed the public about the Gay parade, which does not exclude anyone from its festivities. And even if it were the case, I would lobby for equality for all, regardless of the venue!
Maureen March 16, 2012 at 03:08 AM
Watchdog: Hagrid has accused you of misinforming the public about the Gay parade.  She accused me in a recent blog of having negative things to say and having little 'logos' in my arguments. Perhaps she should know that I am a fan of Oscar Wilde who remarked in 'The Picture of Dorian Gray' that "it is perfectly monstrous the way people go about, nowadays, saying things against one behind one’s back that are absolutely and entirely true". "The world is still deceived with ornament.  In law, what plea so tainted and corrupt,  but, being seasoned with a gracious voice, obscures the show of evil?  (The Merchant of Venice, 3.2.80) Perhaps we might excuse this 'Portia's' view on the St. Pat parade as I suspect her reading extends only to J.K. Rowling and not to Wilde or to Shakespeare.  Pseudo-Lawyers who think they know everything are very upsetting to people like me who do.   And, Watchdog,  you must forgive ME for this unfortunate intrusion into your life.  The reason Hagrid signed on to Patch is because I 'galvanized' her with my suspicions about a certain gentleman who asked for forgiveness. He is of course forgiven, but forgiveness does not require that one forgets the act that necessitated the forgiveness.  Or perhaps she was asking that I do that too? And so, Watchdog, please forgive me AND forget as I have forgiven BUT not for forgotten.
Hagrid Miller March 16, 2012 at 08:05 AM
Maureen: I am sorry if I have offended you in any way, that was not my intention. While I disagree with many of your arguments, I have yet to result to the ad hominem you are employing against me currently. However, they did give me a good laugh, because of how far from the truth they actually are. I am a 20 year old male who attends college within the county. I have been bored as off late, and decided to opine in an open form, which yes you did play a pivotal role in "galvanizing". I've read the HP series, and to be honest I prefer Lord of the Rings better. Despite, all that I, once again, have a problem with your post. I'm not really sure how either of the quotes apply? I said everything to you in an open forum, and in no way malign you, but rather civilly addressed the arguments you made (in response to Wilde). As for the Shakespeare quote, I did not intend to surreptitiously offend, I was simply stating my opinion. And despite all our differences, it seems we can agree on one thing - Oscar Wilde. And while I do love Dorian Gray, I prefer another quote to explain my presence on the Patch. "Agitators are a set of interfering, meddling people, who come down to some perfectly contented class of the community, and sow the seeds of discontent amongst them. That is the reason why agitators are so absolutely necessary." - The Soul of Man under Socialism. I'm here to offer a voice to counter more conservative ones like yours and Watchdog's and many others.
Hagrid Miller March 16, 2012 at 08:22 AM
Maureen (Continued): Also, I never intended to appear as someone who knows everything. I view these forums as places of learning too. I am always eager to hear what people have to say, and the notion that someone would think that they know everything is quite preposterous. Socrates (found in Apology) once said, "At any rate it seems that I am wiser than he is to this small extent, that I do not think I know what I do not know." I couldn't agree more with him, yet you believe that you defy the odds and do in fact know everything. You said, "Pseudo-Lawyers who think they know everything are very upsetting to PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO DO." I wasn't aware you knew everything, and I must admit that arguing with someone who knows everything takes a bit of the fun out of the fight. Once again, I meant no offense to you and was simply disagreeing with the arguments you made. It would be wrong for me to insinuate things about you, and I ask that in the future you find restraint before attacking people you know little about, outside of their views on the Patch. I hope that we can continue to have these conversation on this forum, but I will not sit idly and have you bully me.
Maureen March 16, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Hagrid Excellent response!   Welcome aboard. You have a very bright future ahead of you with the ability I see to articulate your views.  Hold on to this passion and poke some fun at yourself sometimes as I do when claiming to "know everything".  


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