NY State: More Schooling, Full Pre-K, Better Teachers

Cesar Perales, Secretary of State of New York, detailed Governor Andrew Cuomo’s plan for New York. Check back with Patch for more on his presentation


Cesar Perales, Secretary of State of New York, detailed Governor Andrew Cuomo’s plan for New York. He presented a powerpoint and fielded questions at Ramapo Town Hall Monday night. He looked at several aspects from economic development to education standards.

The four core elements of Cuomo's plan are:

  1. Attract good jobs and economic growth.
  2. Create a world-class education system that prepares the next generation for the future.
  3. Establish fiscal integrity and discipline.
  4. Restore NY as the progressive capital of the nation.

The big push was “NY one-two punch: Jobs and Education.” With education, the state’s new plan is to look at “More and better.”

  • More Learning Time
  • More Early Education
  • Better Teachers
  • More and Better

More learning time

“We have to seriously think about radical change,” said Perales. He added that the current school calendar was formed during a high agriculture society so kids could have the summer off to help families on the farm, but now times have changed. "The reality of it is, we have got to figure out a way to address school hours. Lots of countries are getting ahead of us. If you look at countries that are doing the best, they have longer school days and larger number of school days."

The average number of annual school days and international rankings are as follows according to the powerpoint presentation:

Country Rankings Reading Math Science # of School Days Korea No. 1 No. 1  No. 1  205.9 Canada No. 3 No. 5 No. 5 190 US No.  14 No. 25 No. 17 179.9

Creating more learning time will be an option for every school district in which the state will pay 100 percent for the additional cost.

3 options:

  • longer days
  • longer year
  • a combination of both

More early education

Cuomo is pushing for real pre-k for all children because quality early education is critical for long-term success

Studies show that children who attend full-day pre-k:

  • Perform 25% better on math exams by the second grade, and 20% better on English exams than those who did not.
  • Are nearly 30% more likely to graduate from high school.
  • Are 40% less likely to repeat a grade.
  • Are 32% less likely to be arrested as a juvenile.

Because of these studies, the state is looking to make pre-kindergarten a full day

  • Currently, universal pre-k is provided by 67% of school districts, which equals, on average, to 2.5 hours a day.
  • We will expand the pre-k program to “full day,” at least 5 hours a day.
  • We will start with the students in the lowest wealth school districts.

Better teachers

“Teaching is one of the most important professions in society and we must attract and incentivize the best to become teachers” according to the powerpoint.

Cuomo plans to implement the overhaul of teacher training and certification

  • Increase admission standards for entry into education training programs.
  • Implement a “bar exam” that teachers must pass in order to receive certification.

Cuomo is looking to create a performance culture with two key aspects: 

  1. Evaluations of teachers’ progress and achievement.
  • New York State’s teacher evaluation system has been a great success.
  • The 4 percent state funding increase is premised on getting an agreement by January 17, 2013.
  • More than 90 percent have submitted plans that last only a year 
  • Will continue to link state aid increases for districts that don’t have plans

    2.  New York must pay for performance

  • Incentivize high performing teachers
  • We propose a program where high performing “master teachers” will receive $15,000 in supplemental income annually for four years to teach other teachers.
  • These master teachers will train other teachers to improve performance in the classroom.
  • Our program will replicate the Jim Simons’ Math and Science for America program in New York. Program currently in NYC—we will expand to around the state starting next year. 

More & Better: Education in Distressed Communities

Demands of schools in wealthier districts are different than demands in lowest wealth districts. Since a school is not just a “school” in distressed communities, the state is looking to create community schools in these communities.

  • Community schools offer education plus support services—serve as the hub for all community services
  • Provides health, employment, after school and other services.
  • Replicate successful models such as Cincinnati Community Learning Centers, Harlem Children’s Zone, Say Yes to Education and Strive 
Tyler Durden January 15, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Hey Cuomo- Do you think the reason we are so far behind Korea is because they go to school 26 more days a year than we do? Our education system is broken beyond repair. We don't need more of it, we need to scrap this mess and start over.
Observer January 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM
any chance Cuomo or Perales outlined the average teacher salary for Korea or Canada? or if those countries are working under an imposed 2% levy? if not, is Patch in a position to forward these questions on or provide contact info for those gentlemen?
mass1997 January 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM
What's to become of East Ramapo?
Richard Kavesh January 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM
OK, Mr. Perales, so how are you going to do all this and still keep beneath your 2% tax cap? Aren't you and the Governor finally beginning to realize that it was penny-wise and pound foolish?
Cynthia Kay January 15, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Is this another unfounded mandate? Our school has marked cuts in program time, teachers, security, and other vital programs . Isn't it time for nys to step in?
Watchdog January 15, 2013 at 04:24 PM
Simple. Get rid of the ridiculous pension and lifetime medical care.
R. Nite January 15, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Cha Ching ! Run if you can
Kim Tran (Editor) January 15, 2013 at 04:43 PM
Thanks, I'll send those questions over to them
Pat Godfrey January 15, 2013 at 05:13 PM
All teachers and more specifically teacher unions ask for is more money, like thats the problem. It's not. We spend more per student than anywhere in the world. Yet we rank among the worst worldwide. It's all these union rules that schools have to work under. Tenure ( a liscence to be lazy and not care), last one in always gets laid off. Even if that teacher is better than other teachers. Try to fire a teacher and the union puts you through years of litigation and makes it near impossible. Right now there are child molesters on the school payroll. Till these unions are reigned in our kids are cursed with a lesser chance in life to succeed.
stephany January 15, 2013 at 05:34 PM
to get better teachers there should be strict guidelines to enter the field.. right now any student with the ability to get into any college can major in education and most likely get a degree..even a masters in 5 yrs is not out of the question. i am sure there is major help for those that need it why not have requirements like engineering and medical schools have to get in and major in education,rather than accept anyone and everyone that manages to squeak out of HS. do this and taxpayers might not have the problem they do paying for teachers for 180 days a yr [-sick, snow and personal days] + their current retirement at 55, with only10 yrs of service, while retirement is just a dream for most other people at what, 70, if at all for the rest of the non public sector. bottom line, if teachers want the pay and respect of other professions make it harder to gain admission and major in education. start the qualification process in HS not after they "manage" to graduate with less than average marks, that more than qualify, or, only qualify, them for an education major with summers off for life and retirement at 55, maybe 57 now but still only 10 yrs of service to get something which is why cops want to be teachers, to get 1 pension for 40+ yrs 2 for 25+ and both + SS for the duration. if you haven't guessed, i have issues with retired people of any profession collecting pensions and taking jobs from those who have no job and no pension coming. it is sickening
Patchy McPatchigans January 15, 2013 at 07:28 PM
i think the logistics of a longer school year has more far reaching affects than the guv realizes. there are entire industries that have sprung up around summertime. camps, employing young people etc. you take that away and you cause harm to the economy. longer school days, maybe, esp since parents aren't home anyway in most cases from work since we are all working to the bone. but not a longer year.
LEChakan January 15, 2013 at 09:47 PM
Longer year. Longer school day. More rigorous expectations of teachers and students. Holding back those who don't cut it, until they "get it". The summer camp argument levied by one commenter is ludicrous.
stephany January 15, 2013 at 11:18 PM
a longer day or extended year will help but IMO not nearly as much as you think, adding 1 more month will not shoot us to #1 or anywhere close--may not even matter at all.on top of that it will never happen. and to my point above. http://www.greatschools.org/students/2453-finland-education.gs?page=2 "The level of respect accorded to Finnish teachers tends to grab attention, especially in America where teaching is viewed as a "fallback" profession occupied primarily by the lower third of college graduates. That equation is flipped in Finland, where teachers boast the highest vocational status (followed by physicians.) A full 25% of Finnish youngsters select teaching as their career goal, but only a fraction succeed. Only 10% to 13% of applicants gain acceptance into the masters' degree in education program." --- it only gets worse when you figure in the fact that these students were possibly in the lower third in HS too. keep in mind--the lower 1/3 is 1/3 up from the bottom and includes the dumbest kid in the class. this is not to say every teacher is in the lower 1/3, but you have to agree it does not look good. kids in Finland start school at 7 yrs old,get little if any homework and school days are about the same length.College is free so everyone is not pursuing that elusive scholarship that rarely appears and matters little to nothing after school is over for the vast majority that get one
elizabeth January 16, 2013 at 01:52 AM
As a former school teacher of 20 years, I must say, that it does not cost a lot to educate children. The 2% tax cap must be used to cut the layers of administrative fat; which is the biggest source of taxpayer waste: superintendents, assistant superintendents, directors, supervisors, etc. Children need books, paper, pens, pencils, a blackboard, and some chalk. This is what Lincoln, Jefferson, Einstein, Edison, Hemingway, etc.... had in their schools. High spending does not correlate with more learning!
Kim Tran (Editor) January 16, 2013 at 02:33 AM
Hi, they got back to me with this answer. I hope it helps: "(In regards to the first question) See this story that points to a report with teacher salaries in both Korea and Canada: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/does-it-pay-to-become-a-teacher/ As for the second question, impossible to answer as there is a local and state share for education in NY. Other countries do not necessarily follow the same structure."


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